violineAugust 1, 2013, 10:42am My problem is, for the item attached i can not round the sharp outer edges by using “filletedge”. In feature based applications, fillets are features and when you modify them, they can all be recalculated together. zh. Would my drawing be a problem or I just used the wrong command? the only point you make clear is how repetitive a message can become. The problem is that the process is very time consuming because there's a lot of guess work as to what radius you can apply. when i search for the term fillet with your name i get 50 posts. If you use the “trim” option in FilletSrf all you have to is join everything after making the fillets I'm having problems with edge filleting. 0 Followers. Make sure there is enough room for the fillet surface to trim and join with adjacent surfaces. Would my drawing be a problem or I just used the wrong command? It seems my last edit is lack of handles so it keeps making error. I am an almost unexperienced user of rhino. Chill. fr. The UI for filletedge may be a lot better but that does little good when the geometry creation fails to work. No Alt key selection drag to avoid dragging things. saying you are happy with the fillets but never stopping to complain is contradicting. and i am sure you also have better things to do then playing this broken record over and over again. Filletedge generally works if you create extruded surfaces that intersect at 90 degrees as in this example. Im having a major headache trying to fillet the edges of the body as its made of control point curves. How to Smooth/Round an Edge in Rhino 3D: Fillet Edge - YouTube Ah, I understand. in Drafting. and since i keep repeating myself either it has become more like a ping pong game. in Modeling. At the moment I tried to fillet edges, Rhino always gives me the problem of creating another single piece of filleted surface instead of fillet the original one. Rhino for Windows. Very helpful input for me. you can write it in another 50 posts but it will not become clearer, you are just flaming further which has absolutely no sense. Until users start asking for the changes I’m asking for, you are going to see another 20 years go by with no improvement to Rhino’s filleting capabilities. Lines (Polylines) lay in different planes. Rhino; SpaceClaim; SOLIDWORKS ; solidThinking Evolve ... GrabCAD Community; GrabCAD Workbench; GrabCAD Print; fillet × 1 Answer. bluex.3dm (994.2 KB). Can Autodesk fillet edges faster than Rhino Hello all, I use Rhino to make pendant models but I find that Rhino's fillet function very slow and inefficient, so I'd like to know if Autodesk would be better at doing that. i am not sure what you have against rhino but once again as i said before rhino is not the only cad tool which has difficulties with filets. Re: To complicated fillet? 47 Views. there is a bug in offsetSrf and it can’t correctly produce a closed fillet offset in fillet loops that are one surface connected to itself. You probably failed to notice that I showed the original poster how to arrive at a good rolling ball fillet solution while everyone else is saying that’s not possible in Rhino. for SOLIDWORKS. Posted by ce.em.el on May 31, 2013 at 8:37am in Support; View Discussions ; Hi all, i have several problems with rh5 Version 5 SR3 (5.3.30426.17065, 26.4.2013) vista 32bit fillet edge is much more slover than rh4 - is faster to open rh4 paste and fillet edge and again copy to rh5 fille. Hello- the thing is that Rhino does not know a fillet is a fillet once it is created. we can repeat that another 100 times it will not cease the fact that you have your preferences as everybody else, just not everybody else is repeating that till infinity while telling everybody what they should do and what not. Many Rhino users want to be able to make rolling ball fillets in Rhino and do it easily and I don’t see very much help being offered to these users. Four surfaces (V4) This example will show you how to manually fillet a corner where four planar surfaces meet at a single point. Your post tells me that I have not made my point clear at all. Rhinoceros 6 for Windows / Modelling Enhancements / Fillet & Blend Edge: In this video, Rhino ART Phil Cook of Simply Rhino UK takes a look at Rhino v6 improvements Fillet & Blend Edge, Guidelines & Orient on Surface. The process is time consuming and in the end it often fails. Summary: Here's an example sent in by Mitch Heynick. When someone posts a fillet failure file. blue.3dm (881.0 KB) Having troubles on fillet edge issues. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Bildschirmfoto 2017-10-27 um 14.32.35.png, Bildschirmfoto 2017-10-27 um 14.32.44.png. 47 Views. It is possible, but those very pointy ends and the facets need a little special treatment: Change the rail type to distance between rails instead of rolling ball. it seems that it almost succeeds but does not create that little corner right at the edge here which does also not look very pretty with Normands suggestion. Quality may not be important to you but other Rhino users might be interested in finding out what works better and what does not work as well. There is no contradiction in what I have said. filletingV1.3dm (320.0 KB). 1. Rhino doesn’t handle radius zero. Part of the problem in your model is there is a bug in offsetSrf and it can’t correctly produce a closed fillet offset in fillet loops that are one surface connected to itself even though the offset result has ends within tolerance they can’t be joined. Hi Al, nope. You are falsely claiming Rhino has difficulty making fillets. Thank you too! Thank you! Now try the same thing on the model you posted (123.3dm) . the fillet edge gives you this problem because at the bottom the radius always become 0 due to the tangency on the lower edge (the base circle). Also, can you scale a model using percentages? Tried with Fillet surface command but the issue still exist. Is there any way to . Im learing inventor 2017 and i've ran into a problem. Thx to all of you guys. zh-tw. i guess you did not notice that i shared a rollingball solution either, if its a good one or not. 336 Views. The first thing I look for are surface edges. Rhino has excellent filleting capability, but in order to access that excellent capability the user has to proceed with an enormous number of difficult and mostly unnecessary steps. Rhino6 fillets edges better than 5 and be sure that tolerances are fine. For instance if you scale your model 100 times and fillet using radius r*100 it will fillet better than smaller ones. ko. export to stl from rh5 brings problems with unexpected surfaces (lost srf). What I am displeased about is that it would be very easy to make this command that works well more accessible to the user, but sadly that is not going to happen. So, rolling ball, so to speak, larger than the radius of the existing fillet will create a fillet surface that is self intersecting in Rhino. Zoo. for AutoCAD. The problem is that the process is very time consuming because there's a lot of guess work as to what radius you can apply. MOTO DIAGA. This takes years of experience to figure out and yes it sucks. this i leave for others to judge, i certainly do not present my works as the state of the art. its getting so boring that i seriously believe that those who frequently visit the discourse have read your rantings about this issue more than 20 times already. It is the Rhino users that have difficulties accessing that tremendously good filleting capability. Sliver edges, edges almost intersecting etc. Thanks! Only Parametric House Users can download this content. That makes it seem I haven’t explained it thoroughly enough. i am not sure what you have against rhino but once again as i said before rhino is not the only cad tool which has difficulties with filets. I make designs in Illustrator and I want to make 3d models out of them. If you look at the fillet I produced, you will see I had to adjust the fillet radius as it went round the edge: 2mm, 1.5mm, 1mm etc. Curvaturegraph command can help with making nice curves and spotting areas where the curvature is too small to support the size fillet that you want. I want to apply a variable fillet to sharp edges.... megumi hattori. Befehlsliste Deutsch-Englisch Die Befehlsliste wird Ihnen helfen, Rhino besser kennenzulernen. The problem is that the process is very time consuming because there's a lot of guess work as to what radius you can apply. I cast jewelry and I am testing Rhino to make some simple models. Understood. However, sometimes no matter how hard we are trying Fillet just won’t connect those two polylines (or line and polyline). Also the result isn't very good. i think you made your point clear a millennium ago. The enclosed file shows one way to speed up the process using filletSrf. Now we are going to look at most common problems that interfere with command’s behavior. The marked line makes it impossible to use fillet on the curved edge. they sure do or at least they should if they want quality, but you think it needs somebody recruiting them into your way of working? If McNeel spent…. you can repeat it as often as you want, its just very boring because i have read it again and again and most likely i am not the only one. es. I know it’s boring, but you have to fix the hole by hand, trim and sweep2. Bongo. To get nice fillets you should make nice surfaces and to get nice surfaces you need nice curves. That is an indication that there are lots of people who are having trouble with their attempts to make fillets in Rhino. Last update: March 2, 2019: What if they don’t work? Autocad - problem with fillet two objects. What you will find is there are lots of places where your model has poor continuity and as a result when you try to join all the offset surfaces there will be many places where the surfaces won’t join. What size Fillet? then window select all the surfaces and offset by 2 mm. for AutoCAD. i guess thats not the only thing which is obvious. Oh it is not offset from my solid, I just drag it out to show that the fillet surface cannot join my original solid It just create an extra one instead. If I had actually managed to make my point then you would be griping at McNeel and not at me. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. I import the illustrator into Rhino, then extrude a solid with sharp edges, and then I try to fillet the edges. Fillet Surface and Union commands in Rhino 5 are failing far more often than they work. My problem is, for the item attached i can not round the sharp outer edges by using “filletedge”. I say its time to stop wasting time working on filletedge command and start making the FilletSrf command that works well more accessible to Rhino users. It looks to me that the current version of filletEdge is not even as good as it was 20 years ago. then this whole discussion would be obsolete if i would claim that. WwwW. And that could change very easily if McNeel wanted to spend some development time making that tremendous capability more accessible to the users. I am happy with the fillets Rhino produces using the FilletSrf command. If you try to build complex objects with overlapping transition blends that do not have rock solid continuity you will find it to be a lot more difficult then if you do. Developer Tools. Then you can scale back the 3d model. if you are so happy with the fillets from rhino then why do you complain, I guess I need to keep explaining it again and again. Would my drawing be a problem or I just used the wrong command? in Drafting. so why even complaining about an automated tool at all? Hi Tone, To watch full screen, click here. I certainly did notice you used what is called " rolling ball" option in filletedge and I went on to demonstrate that is not as robust or accurate as the rolling ball surfaces you can get when you use filletSrf . I've been having a lot of trouble with Rhino's fillet edge function. Advanced Fillets in Rhino: This example will show you how to manually fillet a corner where four planar surfaces meet at a single point. 0 Followers. it. This lets Rhino solve the very steep fillets. That is an indication that there are lots of people who are having trouble with their attempts to make fillets in Rhino. Thanks for the info, Jim ! I have never seen a rolling ball fillet that another Cad program makes that Rhino can’t make and Rhino often makes them cleaner and more accurately. I make designs in Illustrator and I want to make 3d models out of them. 348 Views. 1. 0 Followers. After placing the extra handles I manually altered them. There's not even a horribly complicated way to fillet the edge of a Brep. the only point you make clear is how repetitive a message can become. As far as I can tell the development of fillets in Rhino has been close to a complete waste of time. Sie wird Ihnen auch zur Erstellung von Skripten nützlich sein. filletingx.3dm (656.3 KB), That’s because filletedge is a very weak command. My question is the following: How can I quickly fillet the outer edges of my model faster and without failing? hello WwwW First explode it and then select and offset the individual surfaces by 2 mm, MOTO DIAGA. Rhino for Windows. fillet pantone chair. Are you familiar with surface modeling? See your other thread. McNeel keeps telling us that fillets are getting better in Rhino, but I see zero evidence of that. OK OK , everyone’s a winner, trophies all around. Rhino users might be interested in finding out what works better and what does not work as well. . Thanks…It keeps us off the street. Although, Rhino could still be improved there. That’s because filletedge is a very weak command. Its easy to demonstrate the greatly superior continuity of true fillets. Hello all, I've been having a lot of trouble with Rhino's fillet edge function. I import the illustrator into Rhino, then extrude a solid with sharp edges, and then I try to fillet the edges. But most of the edges that won’t join are due to the poor continuity of the fillets in your model I want to apply a variable fillet to sharp edges.... megumi hattori. Admin; Login with RhinoAccounts; en. This usually happens when the fillet radius is too great or if it is intersecting itself (going round a tight bend for example). McNeel will continue to waste time trying to improve filletEdge unless users demand a change. To complicated fillet? rhino 5 problems. I used fillet edge (under the solid tab) then the AddHandle option which comes up in the command line. Then you can quickly make the 4 fillet loops with FilletSrf. Rhino could have much better filleting with very little development effort. Tried with Fillet surface command but the issue still exist. Tried filleting just the one side of the ear piece and it seems to work as expected.blue-try.3dm (1.1 MB) if you are saying the fillet is offset from your surface, I can’t offer an explanation other than maybe your graphics driver is a bit old but that may be a long-shot. Curves no good. This is may be the most common problem. for SOLIDWORKS. You have totally misunderstood my point and got it 100% backwards, That makes it seem I haven’t explained it thoroughly enough. Hey guys Im modelling my guitar as a bit os summer practice in CAD. The process is time consuming and in the end it often fails. I have to remember this … i can understand that you prefer Fillet Surface but this rant has been going a while thats all i want to point out. To help you understand what I'm trying to do here are 2 images. Then select the result and join it. You either learn to work around this or use another cad package to do your fillets. 4 Answers. At the moment I tried to fillet edges, Rhino always gives me the problem of creating another single piece of filleted surface instead of fillet the original one. True fillets generally have much better tangent continuity and that’s important if you want to build complex models with overlapping features and overlapping transition surfaces between features. I made the vertical extrusion as one surface using the “SplitAtTangents=No” option in the Extrude command. Would you mind to tell me what command did you apply on the fillet edge? I’ve seen examples where the current version of filletedge fails but Rhino1 version succeeds.